Thank You

 HANOVER – Hard as it is for me to believe, this was the 20^th season of Big Green Alert. I never imagined it would last this long.

First and foremost of the people I need to thank is Sammy McCorkle. It would have been easy as a first-year head coach a couple of seasons back for him to say he wouldn’t be comfortable having someone show up at every single practice continuously jotting things down in a notebook. But he took my presence in stride and has been incredibly generous with his time since Day One, always jogging over after practice to answer whatever inane questions I might have.

When I stopped by Sammy’s office last year and told him I’d pretty much decided to hang up my notebook, he asked what he could do to keep me around. I’m sure he has no idea how much that meant to me, but that alone was enough to convince me to keep things going, albeit in the new BGA Overtime format.

Justin Lafleur of the sports information office always found a way to answer my questions without complaint, despite being woefully overworked and for that I'm appreciative.

More than anything, I have to thank the readers who have clicked on Griff the Wonder Dog or sent checks with kind notes of support. It was a huge gamble taking down the paywall last year, but given that I wasn’t sure how much time I was going to put into the site, I thought it was the right thing to do. As it turns out, there hasn’t been a ton of difference between the old site and the new, and those of you who have offered encouragement are the reason why.

I can’t say the BGA Overtime format has been a resounding success, but opening the site up has allowed me to share the Dartmouth football story with a wider audience than ever before. 

In closing, I will admit I’m not sure what the future holds for either the BGA daily site or BGA Overtime. I’ll recharge my internal battery over the next few months and we’ll see. In the meantime, a huge thank you for allowing me the privilege of a 20-season run covering Dartmouth football.

Happy Thanksgiving and keep in touch.

BW

Your Mileage May Vary – Week 10

 HANOVER – Here’s your “Season-Ending Six,” with a bonus tossed in for good measure.

1) A study of the 2013 college football season determined that teams that won the turnover battle won the game 73 percent of the time. Brown came into Saturday’s contest having won all four games in which it had fewer turnovers, and having lost all four games in which it had more. (In one game, the turnovers were even.) Nothing changed against Dartmouth. Brown won the turnover battle by turning the Big Green over four times and the ball over twice, and won the game.

2) It was fun to see young players growing into their roles this fall, and several who will be instrumental in the success of next year’s team came to the fore at Brown. Sophomore wide receiver Ky’Dric Fisher had four catches, including a 20-yard touchdown. Soph defensive back Niquis Ratcliff had four tackles and went high for his first career interception. Sophomore linebacker Johnny Riley had a career-high four solo tackles. Freshman running back Myles Craddock, who had just nine carries for 26 yards coming into the game, broke out with 12 carries for a team-high 46 yards and his first career touchdown against the Bears. Sophomore punter Luke Armistead averaged 45.0 yards on his three boots. 

2) Young players weren’t the only ones who stepped up this fall. Dartmouth graduated all three starting linebackers last spring, and in what should be a surprise to no one who has been paying attention since he arrived in Hanover in 2010, defensive coordinator Don Dobes rebuilt his position group with seniors who proved themselves. Nico Schwikal had four tackles last year before finishing his final season with 66, second on the team. Teddy Gianaris had eight tackles a year ago and posted 55 this year, with team highs in sacks (five) and tackles for a loss (nine). And Zyion Freer-Brown, who had 18 tackles as a junior, exploded this fall with a team-high 79 stops, including five for a loss and two sacks.

4) Coach Sammy McCorkle warned during the week that Brown was a better team than people realized, and he was proved right. Quarterback James Murphy showed a rifle arm, as McCorkle had seen on film. The QB wasn’t afraid to throw 50/50 balls that his lanky receivers went up and got the way the coach said they would. Tailback Matt Childs was just as athletic as the Dartmouth coach expected. And an improved defense played inspired football. From a Big Green perspective, the game was a disappointment, of course. But after watching the way Brown played in upsetting a top-10 Rhode Island team earlier in the year and how it played Saturday, it wasn’t the kind of upset it might have seemed at first glance.

5) Although it was drizzling at kickoff Saturday, the forecast was for the rain to clear and the sun to come out as the day drew on, and that’s what happened. It’s a shame more than 1,463 people didn’t show up for a highly entertaining college football game. It used to be easy for Ivy League watchers to scoff at a league like the Northeast Conference for attendance numbers like that, but sadly, the Ivy is heading in the NEC's direction. As for the Ivy League promoting the schedule change that made Dartmouth and Brown a season-ending “regional rivalry,” it’s being proven otherwise. I'm hardly the only one who misses finishing up with a real rivalry game against Princeton.

6) Although it didn’t turn out the way Dartmouth hoped, it was exciting in a year when the Big Green was eliminated from the Ivy League race to have something to play for on the final Saturday of the season. And wasn’t it fun studying the bracketology and all the permutations in the final week of the season? A lot of Ivy League players missed out on that excitement before the poobahs finally came around. And for the record, judging by the attendance and excitement at Yale Bowl, it doesn’t seem as if playing another game or two took anything away from The Game as followers of those two school argued for years that it would.

And the final bonus of the year . . .

7) If you follow Dartmouth, it’s totally understandable that you are disappointed with how this season finished. But take a step back and think about this: You know your program is in a very, very good place when the team you cheer for finishes the year 7-3 and you are disappointed.

As Playoff Picture Clears, Dartmouth Focuses On Reflection and Reset

 HANOVER – Several dozen or more football teams gathered in their football complexes Sunday to watch the FCS playoffs selection show. Dartmouth had a regular team meeting planned, but the Big Green could be excused if tuning in to ESPNU to see which teams made the cut, and who they would be playing was not on the agenda.

Thanks to Saturday’s win over Harvard, Yale knew it was in the field, and learned it would be playing at 15-seed Youngstown State, with the winner going on to face second-seeded Montana State. Harvard, widely expected to be a top-eight seed before being battered by the Bulldogs, was one of the “last four” in the field as an at-large entry, and will play at 12-seed Villanova Saturday, with the winner advancing to a matchup with fifth-seed Lehigh.

Two teams Dartmouth faced this fall learned their fate as well. Central Connecticut, the Northeast Conference automatic qualifier, will face nine-seed Rhode Island and New Hampshire, like Harvard an at-large team and one of the “last four in,” visits 14-seed South Dakota State.

With wins over Yale, Central Connecticut and New Hampshire and a loss to Harvard, Dartmouth had a 3-1 record against teams who are continuing on.

The Yale, Harvard and Central Connecticut games will kick off Saturday at noon with the New Hampshire game slated for a 1 p.m. start.

STATISTICALLY SPEAKING

Dartmouth quarterback Grayson Saunier completed 24-of-41 throws for 274 yards Saturday with a career-high three touchdown passes and three interceptions. He ran six times for 26 yards. . . . Brown quarterback James Murphy was 22-of-27 for 222 yards, also with three touchdowns and two interceptions. He ran for times for 21 yards.

Tight end Chris Corbo matched his career high of eight catches and set a new high with 83 yards receiving. His touchdown grab gave him four on the season and 13 in his career. . . .  Grayson O’Bera pulled in seven catches, also for 83 yards, and had one touchdown while Ky’Dric Fisher caught four balls for a career-high 75 yards and his first collegiate TD.

Nico Schwikal led Dartmouth with seven tackles while Zyion Freer-Brown, Cameron Best-Alston, Sean Williams and Niquis Ratcliff each had four. … Eight players each had one tackle for loss with Bruce Williams and Cameron Lee each recording a sack. … Best-Alston and Ratcliff each had an interception.

Luke Armistead punted three times for a 45.0-yard average. He finished the season averaging 42.7 yards, narrowly missing the school record of 42.9 set by Alex “Fred” Ware in 2001.

Dartmouth finished with advantages in total offense (386 yards to 304), rushing yards (112-82), passing yards (274-222), first downs (21-16), and time of possession (34:45-25-15). … The Big Green was 8-of-16 on third down and Brown 5-of-12. Dartmouth was 2-of-2 on fourth down and Brown 2-of-3.

Dartmouth drives in order (plays/yards/result): 5/39/touchdown; 3/8/punt; 8/19/interception; 7/75/touchdown; 12/75/touchdown; 3/0/punt; 3/8/punt; 11/54/touchdown; 4/0/missed field goal; 6/29/lost fumble; 7/25/interception; 7/44/interception.

Brown drives in order (plays/yards/result): 2/0/interception; 7/32/punt; 7/69/touchdown; 11/49/touchdown; 6/68/touchdown; 1/0/half; 3/6/punt; 2/8/interception; 4/7/downs; 7/68/touchdown; 3/-15/punt; 6/17/end of game.

THEY SAID IT (lightly edited for clarity)

Brown coach James Perry (via Brown sports): "These guys were incredible to coach. I'm so proud of them. Our guys have practiced very well, and I knew we'd play well today."

Perry: “I’m as proud as I've ever been of these kids and the way they work, practice, and take care of business.”

Dartmouth coach Sammy McCorkle on Brown being a better team than its record would indicate: “Oh gosh, yeah. They played well defensively too. That's the thing. Everybody wants to talk about their offense. Their defense came to play today. They played with a lot of energy, they played hard, they played confidently, and they did a good job of coming after us.” 

McCorkle on Brown playing like a team with nothing to lose by going for it on fourth downs, including in their own end: “They get the extra down. But that's who they are. And you knew that going into the game.”

Dartmouth tight end Chris Corbo: “This has been the best four years of my life. These guys that I played with throughout my four years, especially my class, are my brothers for life. This program has changed my life forever. I am forever in debt to Coach (Buddy) Teevens, Coach McCorkle, and the rest of the coaching staff and everyone that's been a part of this these last four years. I wouldn't trade it for the world.”

Corbo on the young players who are the future of the program: “A lot of guys stepped up when they needed to. I’m proud of them. This program is in very good hands. A lot of guys coming back next year and are going to get their full shot to show what they can do, and I’m excited for them to get their opportunity.” 

Linebacker Zyion Freer-Brown on the loss: “I mean it's very disappointing, especially as seniors. Everybody's crying and sulking, and everything like that, but we just have to take it on the chin and walk out of here with our heads up and chest out. … We can't change the outcome. I wish we could have done some things better, made more plays out there. But this is the reality, and this is the life that we have to live with.”

Freer-Brown: “This class has been through a lot. The death of Coach T(sevens), the death of another teammate as well. We've been through a lot of adversity, but we've used that to fuel ourselves. We raised the standard here. We … hold that near and dear to our hearts. Everybody knows that whenever we come out here it's an honor and a privilege (shared by) the guys who wore the jersey before you and the guy who's going to wear it after you. So you better, each and every snap, go out there and leave it all out on the field.”

Freshman running back Myles Craddock: “There's a lot to take away from this year.  A lot of good things, a lot of bad things. I wish we could have gotten the ‘dub ‘today as a team. But I think there are some good things that you can take away from this game and bring into next year. The seniors set a really good standard for us young guys, so we have to step up next year and make sure we do better.”

McCorkle (from yesterday’s game story in case you missed it): “I'm disappointed for the seniors. There's a group of guys that I can't tell you enough about how proud I am and what they've meant to this program and just the resilience they've shown through all the tough times they've been through. I just hate for them to have to finish on this note, but I told them inside the locker room that one game does not signify who you are and what you've done for this program.”

On tap tomorrow: Your Mileage May Vary

Big Green Comes Up Short At Brown

 PROVIDENCE, R.I. – It’s precious little consolation for the Dartmouth football team on a day that didn’t finish the way the Big Green hoped, but as it turned out, a win wouldn’t have brought a bid to the FCS playoffs anyway.

Minutes after an interception in the corner of the end zone with 1:53 remaining and a Brown first down put the finishing touches on the Bears’ surprising 35-28 win over Dartmouth Yale put the finishing touches on the Big Green’s season. The Bulldogs not only grabbed a piece of the Ivy League title from Harvard with a 45-28 beat down but also claimed the conference’s automatic berth in the playoffs. That, in turn, means the previously undefeated Crimson now has the inside track for an at-large bid if the Ancient Eight is to get one.

None of that was on Dartmouth coach Sammy McCorkle’s mind after three interceptions and a lost fumble doomed his team, which finishes the season 7-3 overall and 4-3 in the Ivy League. Brown, which won its first conference game of the season when it topped Columbia last week, 32-29, finishes 5-5 overall and 2-5 in conference.

“I’m disappointed for the seniors,” McCorkle said as a group of solemn Big Green players mingled with friends and family outside the Brown Stadium locker room. “It’s a group of guys that I just can't tell you enough about how proud I am of what they've meant to this program, and just the resiliency they've shown through all the tough times they've been through. I just hate for them to have to finish on this note.

“But I told them in the locker room that one game does not signify who you are and what you've done for this program. They've made a huge impact and a huge footprint for Dartmouth football.”

Needing a Harvard win over Yale and a victory over Brown to have a shot at the playoffs, Dartmouth started its final game with a bang. Linebacker Zyion Freer-Brown picked off Bears’ quarterback James Murphy on the second play of the game, setting the Big Green up at the Brown 39.

When DJ Crowther ran for 11 yards and a first down on Dartmouth’s initial play and for 10 yards and another first down on the next snap, it seemed it was only a matter of time until the senior tailback got the yards he needed to reach 1,000 for the season. And when Grayson Saunier capped the five-play opening drive with a 13-yard touchdown pass to Grayson O’Bara, it seemed just as inevitable that Dartmouth would eventually put its stamp on its eighth straight win in the series.

Neither would happen.

After surrendering 21 yards to Crowther on his first two runs, Brown allowed him just 19 more yards on his next 14 carries. A Dartmouth ground attack that punished Cornell with 254 yards last week managed just 112 against an increasingly confident Brown defense that had been surrendering 168 per game.

Saunier would go on to throw a career-high three touchdown passes but also a career-worst three interceptions, the last returned 74 yards for the touchdown with 4:50 remaining that broke a 28-28 tie and sealed the Big Green’s fate.

“Just too many mistakes,” said McCorkle. “Turnovers hurt us. They put us in really bad situations, and the turnovers turned into points for them. You just can’t do that.”

The first interception near midfield came with the score tied at 7 and led to the touchdown pass that gave the Bears their first lead early in the second quarter. Dartmouth responded with a 35-yard toss from Saunier to a wide-open Chris Corbo before Brown went back in front, 21-14, on a 21-yard Murphy TD throw.

Against one of the best defenses in the Ivy League, Brown had marched 69, 49 and 68 yards for touchdowns on consecutive possessions. But there was still 3:02 before the break, and Saunier has been adept this fall at the two- or in this case, three-minute drill.

Taking over at his own 25, the junior QB proceeded to complete seven passes, the last a 20-yarder to Ky’Dric Fisher, who pulled the ball in at the one and squeezed into the end zone to tie the score at 21 with 12 seconds on the clock.

McCorkle’s teams have been masters this season at scoring to end the first half and doubling up with a score to start the second, and that’s exactly what he was hoping to see when the Big Green received the third-quarter kickoff.

Instead, Dartmouth uncharacteristically went three-and-out on its first two possessions after the break.

“We knew if we just punched that in before the half and got the ball back, we’d feel pretty good about it,” McCorkle said. “Let's go down there and let's score again. The last thing you want to do is go three-and-out.”

“(But) our defense did a good job of bowing up as well and getting the ball right back to our offense.”

Both times.

On Brown’s drive after the first Dartmouth three-and-out, a big hit by Harrison Keith jarred the ball loose from a receiver and forced a punt. Then it was a Niquis Ratliff interception near midfield after the Big Green’s second consecutive three-and-out, setting up the first points of the second half.

After narrowly missing a long TD throw on the first play after the interception, Dartmouth held the ball for 11 plays with freshman tailback Myles Craddock carrying five times for 21 yards, including a five-yard TD run that gave the Big Green a 28-21 lead with 4:25 left in the third quarter. Craddock, who had just nine carries for 26 yards in four games before the finale, finished with 12 carries for a team-high 46 yards and his first collegiate score playing in his home state of Rhode Island.

Dartmouth had a golden opportunity to pad its lead when Brown rolled the dice and went for it on a fourth-and-one at its own 34, only to see Freer-Brown, Jamal Cooper, and friends stop a run up the middle for no gain.

When the Big Green couldn’t muster a first down, Owen Zalc’s 50-yard field goal into a slight breeze came up short.

Taking over at its own 32, Brown made the squandered opportunity hurt by driving 68 yards in seven plays, the last a six-yard bullet from Murphy to Solomon Miller on the goal line to make it 28-28 four plays into the final quarter of the season.

To that point, the two offenses had combined for eight touchdowns. The rest of the fourth quarter – and ultimately the game – would come down to the two defenses.

When Crowther lost a fumble near midfield on the first Big Green possession after Brown tied the game, the defense bailed him out with help from a Bruce Williams sack and a Cameron Lee hit on consecutive snaps, forcing a punt.

Then it was the turn of the Brown defense, and it came through in dramatic fashion.

A hard rush on third-and-six at the Bear 36 forced Saunier out of the pocket, and running to his right, he threw late across his body toward the middle of the field. Alejandro Bello intercepted the pass at the 26, weaved to the home side of the field, and with Dartmouth players in hot pursuit, sprinted 74 yards down the sideline for the first “pick six” against the Big Green this fall. The PAT gave the Bears a seven-point lead with 4:50 remaining.

His team now trailing by a touchdown, Corbo had complete belief his team would respond.

“I’ve been through many games where we've been down and backs against the wall and come back and win,” he said. “So I had the utmost faith in our staff and players.”

A 29-yard O’Bara grab and a 13-yard completion to Fisher Dartmouth brought a first down at the Brown 33 with 3:23 remaining. After a two-yard run by Craddock, it was Saunier spotting the 6-foot-5 Corbo heading for the front-right corner of the end zone, where he was one-on-one with 5-10 defensive back Cap Davis.

But on a day when Brown receivers had made a living high-pointing passes, Corbo never got the chance. The potential tying TD throw came up just short, and Davis pulled it in to end the threat.

Although Dartmouth used its timeouts to save time for a final push if it could get a stop, that stop never came. On a clutch third-and-eight play with 1:47 left, Murphy found Ty Pezza for an 18-yard gain that put the Bears in victory formation for the rest of the game.

Eyes On Brown, Ears On Harvard-Yale

 PROVIDENCE, R.I. – Dartmouth coach Sammy McCorkle promises his team will be 100 percent focused on the field during Saturday’s game at Brown.

It will probably be different for friends, family and alums in the stands.

Cell phones in the visiting bleachers at Brown Stadium figure to be lighting up throughout the afternoon delivering out-of-town scores because, for the third year in a row, the Harvard-Yale game will have an impact on the Dartmouth season. For the first time, however, not with regard to the Ivy League title.

Although the Big Green was eliminated from Ivy contention last week, The Game will go a long way toward determining Dartmouth’s fate in the first year of playoff eligibility for the Ancient Eight – as long as the Big Green takes care of business at Brown Stadium.

Should undefeated Harvard win in New Haven, the Crimson will gain the Ivy League’s automatic bid to the FCS playoffs, and Dartmouth will have the inside track for a potential at-large bid over Yale thanks to a win over the Bulldogs earlier this season.

Should Yale win, it will earn the automatic bid, and Harvard would be a virtual lock to earn an at-large bid to the playoffs. The field for the playoffs will be announced Sunday at noon.

That’s all on the table in The Tussle Saturday, but as McCorkle made clear again Thursday after practice, none of it matters if Dartmouth (7-2 overall, 4-2 Ivy League) slips up against Brown (4-5, 1-5).

“It’s a great thing for our league,” McCorkle said of the jockeying for a playoff berth. “It gives you another thing to play for, but we can only control what we do on Saturday. That has to be our entire focus.”

Given that not even a win over Brown and a Harvard victory over Yale would guarantee Dartmouth an at-large bid, would an impressive performance in the regular-season finale help?

“I don’t know, to be honest,” McCorkle said. “I’m not sure. But our main goal is to do whatever it takes to win. If that means we have to win by one point, that has to be our goal, our main thing. We can’t control the rest, so we just have to go out there and hope for the best.”

Brown comes into the game after snapping a four-game losing streak with a 32-29 win at Columbia last week. While Dartmouth has had its way with the Bears in each of his first two seasons at the helm (wins by scores of 56-28 last year and 38-13 in 2023), McCorkle is wary of a team that posted a 28-21 win over No. 9/10 Rhode Island earlier this season.

“We’ve got to be ready,” he said. “Look at their games. They beat Rhode Island. They scored a lot of points and shut out Georgetown (40-0). They’ve taken teams to the wire. We have to be at our best.”

With former Ivy League record-setting quarterback James Perry at the helm of his alma mater, Brown is once again a pass-happy team. James Murphy, the 6-foot-5, 230-pound junior who saw his first significant action last year in relief against Dartmouth, is second in the nation in passing yards per game this fall with 286.2. He has thrown for at least 340 yards in the last four Brown games, and five of the last six.

“Offensively, they put up some big numbers, and the quarterback is a big reason why,” said McCorkle. “He’s got a live arm and can sling it. He has good good vision and a quick release. That’s the thing about him. He gets it out quick.”

Murphy is third in the Ivy League with 15 touchdown passes but has 12 interceptions, twice as many as any QB who has started all year. 

One of Murphy’s favorite targets is tailback Matt Childs, who is fifth in the Ivy League with 86.9 all-purpose yards per game. Childs has run for 470 yards and seven touchdowns, and caught 36 passes for 280 yards and three more scores.

“He’s a good athlete,” said McCorkle. “He’s a good running back and like a fifth wide receiver. He gets out of the backfield and makes unbelievable catches. We definitely have to be aware of where he's at.”

Receiver Ty Pezza, a 6-4, 225 senior, has caught 42 passes for 556 yards and seven touchdowns this year, and 6-3, 210 sophomore Trevor Foley has 27 grabs for 532 yards, a healthy 19.7 yards per catch.

“They're long, athletic guys,” said McCorkle. “They win the 50/50s, and that's the thing. The quarterback's able to throw it up there, throw it deep, and they go up there and get it. We can't allow them to have space and make plays on us.”

Brown has surrendered 26 sacks this year (second-most to Princeton’s 29 among Ivy League teams), but McCorkle knows the raw numbers can be misleading. The Bears have had 231 pass attempts to Princeton’s 171.

“(Sacks) are going to happen when you throw the ball as much as they do,” the coach said. “Getting pressure on them is important. We can’t let their quarterback sit back there in the pocket and go through his progressions and have time to find the open guy. We’ve got to get him to move around there and get rid of the ball sooner than he wants to.”

Defense has long been an issue at Brown. To the credit of the program’s first-year defensive coordinator, the Bears are allowing almost seven fewer points this year than last. That still has them giving up 26.9 points per game, sixth in the league.

“They’re definitely improved,” said McCorkle. “They fly around and play with energy. They are in attack mode, and that’s the big difference. They are creating a lot of turnovers.”

Brown is 10^th in the nation and first in the Ivy League with nine recovered fumbles (while losing just one fumble all season, the fewest in the country).

Causing the most havoc for Brown is 6-3, 235-pound defensive end Ike Odimegwu, who has nine sacks and is two away from the school record. He also has three quarterback hurries. If his unusual name is familiar, it’s because his brother Uche is a freshman linebacker at Dartmouth.

Senior linebacker John Perdue leads the Bears with 80 tackles along with two interceptions, two sacks and two fumble recoveries. Linebacker Sam Smith has 58 tackles and five pass breakups.

While Brown’s scoring defense has improved, the Bears are still allowing a league-high 402.8 yards per game, and only Columbia has allowed more rushing yardage than Brown, which has given up 169.4 yards per game.

NOTES

After exploding for 197 yards last week, Dartmouth tailback DJ Crowther needs 111 yards against Brown to join one of the program’s most exclusive clubs: the 1,000-yard rushers. Only five Big Green backs have ever done it – Al Rosier (1,432 in 1991), Nick Schwieger (1,133 in 2010 and 1,310 in 2011), Shon Page (1,087 in 1990), Dominick Pierre (1,064 in 2013), and David Clark (1,063 in 1989).

Quarterback Grayson Saunier’s 2,256 yards of total offense (1,869 passing, 387 rushing) is ninth in school history. If he reaches his average of 251 yards per game against Brown, he’ll be seventh overall.  

Depending on whether Dartmouth advances to the playoffs, sophomore Luke Armistead is challenging the school record for punting average in a season. He’s currently averaging 42.4 yards on 23 punts. The Big Green record is 42.9 by Alex Ware in 2001.

Dartmouth is bidding for its eighth consecutive win over Brown. The Big Green hasn’t lost in Providence since dropping a 14-7 overtime game in 2009.

McCorkle on having to hope for a win by archival Harvard Saturday to improve the Big Green’s chances of making the postseason: 

“We’ve had to do that before for other teams, so it’s whatever helps the most.”

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